This wonderful woman passed on the day before yesterday, at peace with her monumental work, From Time Immemorial. We met with Joan about a year ago during her visit to Israel and when we gave her our journal, Sovereignty, into her hands, she pointed out the word "Sovereignty" and told us "This is the only game in town" - and explained "application of sovereignty is the only normal thing to do in order to keep a hold on this Land". Joan Peters went the entire way with her truth, despite the fact that it entailed a total change in her world view. With her difficult and taxing work, which took many years, she shattered, in her words, the lies about the size of the population that was in the Land before the War of Independence and she especially shattered the myth of the refugees, as she brought facts, data and numbers showing how UNRWA as well as the Arab League artificially maintain the refugee status and use the refugees as a weapon against Israel. Joan Peters paid a heavy price for her work. People on the Left, including some Israelis, claimed that her work was not based on accurate data, but authors Barbara Tuchman, Elie Wiesel and Robert St. John stood by her side, as well as history. The People of Israel are extremely grateful for her work and dedication to the People and the Land of Israel. May her memory be blessed. Yehudit Katsover and Nadia Matar www.womeningreen.org Joan Peters in a rare interview: Israeli sovereignty is indispensable in light of the Arab fraud In an exclusive interview with Sovereignty, journalist Joan Peters, author of the best-seller, From Time Immemorial, analyzes reality in the Middle East both clearly and eloquently and calls on the world to recognize and reject the Arab fraud embodied in the words 'Palestinian state'. From Time Immemorial, with its profound insights, quickly became an integral part of the internal Israeli discourse on subjects ranging from Arabs of Judea and Samaria, refugees and UNRWA to the chances of a final agreement between Israel and her neighbors. The energetic journalist still writes about the situation in the Middle East, in general, and the Arab-Israeli conflict, in particular. Women in Green leaders, Yehudit Katsover and Nadia Matar, met Joan Peters some time ago and stayed in touch. Towards the publication of Sovereignty Issue number 4, they asked Peters some questions about her seminal book, about Zionism, and, of course, about sovereignty. What made you decide to write your book and how did you come to realize the truth was different than what you originally thought? Peters explains how she started out writing from the perspective of a human rights activist - who came to Israel to support the Arabs in Israel. "I was not a Zionist, or rather, not until my research taught me why Zionism is imperative to Jews who understand that Israel is forever our protection and our joy.I was an ardent civil rights activist helping to register Black Americans to vote, comparing what little I knew of the Arabs in Israel to the outrage of slavery and then racism as it existed in places in the South--Mississippi and South Carolina, where I worked.Of course, as I learned, the analogy was preposterous, incorrect, and the accurate analogy was the Jews of Palestine--Palestinian Jews from time Immemorial--and the Blacks of America, are comparably oppressed." She refers us back to the book for the description of what brought her to "challenge all of the gospels about Israel and the Arabs - I'd have to recite from my book to adequately recount the questions, the gaping holes in the fraudulent 'history' as presented by all the world's 'experts'." In your opinion, what are the chances that the world will finally wake up to the truth? Is there something that the government of Israel should do to promote this awakening? "The world saw a bit of the truth in 1967, when Israel took the reins and asserted its right and its strength. Today I believe that the same power of truth and strength must be asserted overwhelmingly to destroy the Hamas-ISIS-PLO-Hezbollah, etc. blight on Israel's borders. Why is it that ISIS is clearly seen as a threat to the world while murderous Hamas-ISIS is given more or less a pass on sympathetic grounds when Israel and Jews attack, defend and attempt to protect their country from the monstrous scourge?" UNRWA is deceiving the Jewish People and the entire world Peters devotes a large part of her book to the manner in which the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, UNRWA, perpetuates the refugee status ofArabs who were displaced, or left voluntarily, during the War of Independence. This has become an integral part of efforts to undermine Israel's standing in the eyes of the world and in its own eyes. Women in Green asks Peters to relate to this organization, which, although its stated purpose is to bring peace to the world, actually strengthens those whose goal is to destroy Israel. "UNRWA has been perpetrating fraud against the Jewish nation and against the world since they became the only 'refugee' organ solely dedicated to one group of the world's refugees.The Arab refugees, who really ran or were displaced during Israel's War of Independence, were a small group when compared to the world's hundreds of millions displaced during wars and strife.The Arabs were also a much smaller actual number than the Jewish Arab-born refugees forced to flee from Arab countries.But the Arabs were counted over and over, going back and forth from the refugee camps. As American congressmen have attested, fraud was committed constantly, aided by the almost totally Arab staff in the UNRWA employ." The Arabs base their specious claims on their falsified version of history And of course, last, but most importantly: What do you think about the need to apply Israeli Sovereignty over Judea and Samaria and the Jordan Valley and what should Israel do with the Arabs who will live there after it applies sovereignty? "There only can be one sovereign Jewish Israel in its rightful land as delineated by everything from the Balfour Declaration to the League of Nations,from Churchill to President Truman and the UN, from left to right. Any and all other claims to the Jewish nation--including Judea and Samaria-- are specious at best and fraudulent.Would a claim to peoplehood by any group--say, the Baader Meinhofclaim to Berlin and environs as the Meinhof State from time immemorial-- be taken seriously?No less open to ridicule should be the "Palestine Arab" state.Faked history, fake claims, all imitating the legitimate and rightful national history of the Jewish people."