D. Pipes, R. Spencer, F.Kagan: Obama's Speech on ISIS‏

  “Obama: ISIL is ‘unique in its brutality’ — full transcript,” Chicago Sun-Times, September 10, 2014
ISIL is not Islamic????  To say that "no religion" [in this case meaning Islam] condones killing innocents is simply false; the justification offered by Shari'a law for killing apostates, infidels who refuse conversion or submission, and others is too ample to adumbrate in this note.  To say that the majority of the ISIS victims "have been Muslim", aside from being a rather curious statement, elides the fact that in the eyes of ISIS they were not Muslims under Shari'a law, either because they were Shiiites, Alawis or other "heretical" minorities, or possibly apostates; in addition, it ignores the fact that many thousands of Yazidis, Christians and Assyrians were slaughtered - so even if Pres. Obama's assertion were true, it still makes light of the fact of the slaughter of so many non-Muslims.  Finally, it is not clear on what basis Obama arrogates to himself the authority to make what Daniel Pipes calls the "preposterous claim" that what Obama calls "ISIL" is not Islamic.  In contrast to Pres. Obama, Dr. Pipes avers that we are entitled, based on common sense, to "conclude that ISIS is indeed profoundly Islamic".  The following three brief pieces by Daniel Pipes, Robert Spencer, who cites just a few verses from Islamic sources that belie Obama's "teaching", and Frederick and Kimberly Kagan are the first of many commentaries sure to follow this quirky speech by the President.]

ISIL has described a very clear vision of seizing control of all of the territory of Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian Territories.  It intends to abolish all of the borders and redraw them according to a new structure of governance suitable to its hateful version of an old Islamic heresy.  That vision also makes it more than a simple terrorist organization.  It’s awfully hard to develop a sound strategy when you start by mis-diagnosing the problem so profoundly. That’s why the “strategy” the president just announced has no chance of success.

by F, Kagan: Source URL:


by Daniel Pipes Sep 10, 2014
Cross-posted from National Review Online, The Corner


Robert Spencer Sep 10, 2014 at 9:59pm

The point is that this is more complicated than the President is making out. If the Islamic State so clearly and obviously violated basic tenets of Islam, there wouldn’t be hundreds of Western Muslims traveling to join it — something that we never saw in such numbers with al-Qaeda or other jihad groups. If the Islamic State were really so obviously un-Islamic, how is it that it came to call itself “the Islamic State” to begin with? That is, how did it gain any traction among any Muslims? Obama and the other Western authorities who keep insisting that the Islamic State is not Islamic have never explained how this global misunderstanding of Islam arose and took root. They’ve never explained the texts and teachings of Islam that the Islamic State uses to justify its actions.....

“They execute captured prisoners”: As for the captives, the amir [ruler] has the choice of taking the most beneficial action of four possibilities: the first, to put them to death by cutting their necks; the second, to enslave them and apply the laws of slavery regarding their sale and manumission; the third, to ransom them in exchange for goods or prisoners; and fourth, to show favor to them and pardon them. Allah, may he be exalted, says, “When you encounter those [infidels] who deny [Islam] then strike [their] necks” (Qur’an sura 47, verse 4) (Abu’l-Hasan al-Mawardi, The Laws of Islamic Governance).

“They kill children”: “It is reported on the authority of Sa’b b. Jaththama that the Prophet of Allah (may peace be upon him), when asked about the women and children of the polytheists being killed during the night raid, said: They are from them.” (Sahih Muslim 4321)

“They enslave, rape, and force women into marriage”: “O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as spoils of war” (Qur’an 33:50)

“Certainly will the believers have succeeded: They who are during their prayer humbly submissive, and they who turn away from ill speech, and they who are observant of zakah, and they who guard their private parts except from their wives or those their right hands possess, for indeed, they will not be blamed” (Qur’an 23:1-6).   “They threatened a religious minority with genocide”: “And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.” (Qur’an 9:5)